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  •  06-11-2017, 2:15 下午 511215 in reply to 511149

    Re: 2017 Draft

     

    Dennis Smith Jr.

    NC State,大一,6'3"

    當大家快樂地比較著富兒子和球兒,偶爾加上狐狸一起比,各位可能忘了:去年此時recruit的時候,這三隻的排名都還在Dennis Smith之下。如今Smith不但被這三隻追過,甚至可能連第四名都排不上,因為隨時會有國際球員插隊。

    我相信這只是暫時的,我們眼睛業障重。

    NC State狼群只是ACC的B級球隊,本季戰績也只有五成。然而這一季狼群著實打了些好球,看得人熱血沸騰。最有名的一役是在杜克主場,84:82,近20年來首勝。這場球最後幾秒杜克反撲,被Smith從Tatum手中抄走球後快攻灌籃。時間到,灌籃不算分,但灌飛了狼群20年來的積怨。

    每一場好球,都少不了Smith的搶眼表現,這小子絕對是天生的明星。 技能全面,體能好有外線,能飛能撞,能傳球,穩定性略差,然而論爆發力絕不輸給前面的那三隻。

    那為何評價會輸?很簡單,防守比那三隻差了一級,身高也矮了點。玻璃膝蓋也是問題。但不管怎樣,看他打球的爽度絕對勝過那三隻。

    推薦給先發控球常請假的任何球隊。 

  •  06-13-2017, 3:57 上午 511247 in reply to 511215

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    Re: 2017 Draft

     

    國際球員退選日前:

     

     

     

    首輪秀的拉脫維亞 PF Rodions Kurucs

     

    德國 SG Kostja Mushidi

     

    立陶宛 SF Arnoldas Kulboka  等球員退出今年選秀。

  •  06-13-2017, 11:58 下午 511278 in reply to 511247

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    Re: 2017 Draft

    De'Aaron FoxJosh Jackson 試訓湖人
  •  06-14-2017, 5:23 上午 511294 in reply to 511278

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    Re: 2017 Draft


    Los Angeles Times 消息, 


    湖人主席“魔術師”宣佈,球隊會邀請球哥進行第二次試訓。 


    湖人內部訊息源透露,球哥的首次試訓沒能讓球隊看出他與眾不同的地方, 


    也導致管理層內部產生分歧。



  •  06-14-2017, 4:11 下午 511309 in reply to 511294

    Re: 2017 Draft


    Josh Hart

    Villanova,畢業生, 6'5"

    試想,你是個NCAA球員,在野貓V擔任主將。野貓V這幾年戰績一直不錯,但終究是不錯而已... 大三這年,全隊將士用命,不但爭到第二種子,更一舉攻頂拿下全國冠軍。現在,你要做什麼?當然是趁身價可用趕快去報選秀啊! 

    一般認為他去年有樂透尾身價,以一個運動力普普的球員來說,算是很好的了。但Hart撤回了選秀申請。今年野貓V果然更上層樓,奪得第一種子...結果三月瘋第二輪就慘遭下剋上。

    當前 NBA的顯學就是弄兩個巨頭配一堆3D,Hart會是一個標準的3D球員,但這也讓他變成「一堆」的其中之一。況且他錯過了去年的最佳時機,現在應該連第一輪都沒機會了。

    際遇相近,屬性相似,拿個二輪籤賭他能變成下一個Danny Green,頗划算。

  •  06-15-2017, 12:19 上午 511311 in reply to 511309

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    Re: 2017 Draft

     

    球爸近日做客Jimmy Kimmel Live,在節目中,

     

    主持人Jimmy Kimmel與球爸再次談到了和 MJ 單挑一事。

     

    Jimmy Kimmel說:“你曾經表示,你能一對一打敗他...

     

    球爸馬上接話:“你知道這是真的!他太小個了,

     

    他只有210磅。我和他單挑,你知道我單挑是無敵的,

     

    我從沒輸過單挑。如果他跟我打,他會哭的

     

    If he played me he would cry)。”

     

  •  06-16-2017, 1:03 上午 511326 in reply to 511311

    Re: 2017 Draft

    最新的 www.nbadraft.net/2017mock_draft
    Updated: 6/13/17 12:07 pm

    球哥的預測,已如我所想,去當阿波羅了。

    較不可置信的,是他預測七六人挑 Jayson Tatum,
    竟放過 De'Aaron Fox ?!

    另,我頗喜歡的大前鋒 John Collins 落到第 22 順位,
    籃網,若能挑到他,我會滿高興的。

    -----------------------------------------------------------------------
    Updated: 6/16/17 1:11 pm 更新,
    John Collins 逆勢上揚至 13 順位,被籃網選秀的機會相當渺茫 ......


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  •  06-16-2017, 1:31 上午 511327 in reply to 511326

    Re: 2017 Draft

    mock draft 建議多看幾間網站

    前幾天在推特看到有人製作出這表格

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pB95r0G5qULSypz2od-AgOb1Kcyu2MmmK8vEPN7JxPI

    前三個版本來自 kevin oconner(非阿爵前gm)網站 the ringer

    某中兩位作者的 mock 很有意思

    某一位更把有 3D 潛力的 devin robinson 擺在 #19

    這獨排眾議的角度跟 nbadraft.net 有夠相像

     


    GO JAZZ!!!
  •  06-16-2017, 2:22 上午 511329 in reply to 511327

    Re: 2017 Draft

    有些mock喜歡捕風捉影,聽到一點rumor就大翻盤,反正只要最後一天再拿可靠點的情報(woj)重排就好,準不準都只看最後一版,沒人去查前面的版本有多離譜。
  •  06-16-2017, 2:37 上午 511330 in reply to 511329

    Re: 2017 Draft

    這網站我看了好幾年,當然不可能神準,
    以近三年的前 10 選秀來看,參考信度還頗高。

    2016

    Team

    Final Draft

    Mock Draft

    1

    Philadelphia

    Ben Simmons

    Ben Simmons

    2

    LA Lakers

    Brandon Ingram

    Brandon Ingram

    3

    Boston

    Jaylen Brown

    Kris Dunn

    4

    Phoenix

    Dragan Bender

    Dragan Bender

    5

    Minnesota

    Kris Dunn

    Buddy Hield

    6

    New Orleans

    Buddy Hield

    Jamal Murray

    7

    Denver

    Jamal Murray

    Marquese Chriss

    8

    Phoenix

    Marquese Chriss

    Domantas Sabonis

    9

    Toronto

    Jakob Poeltl

    Jaylen Brown

    10

    Milwaukee

    Thon Maker

    Deyonta Davis

     

    2015

    Team

    Final Draft

    Mock Draft

    1

    Minnesota

    Karl-Anthony Towns

    Karl-Anthony Towns

    2

    LA Lakers

    D'Angelo Russell

    D'Angelo Russell

    3

    Philadelphia

    Jahlil Okafor

    Jahlil Okafor

    4

    New York

    Kristaps Porzingis

    Emmanuel Mudiay

    5

    Orlando

    Mario Hezonja

    Kristaps Porzingis

    6

    Sacramento

    Willie Cauley-Stein

    Mario Hezonja

    7

    Denver

    Emmanuel Mudiay

    Justise Winslow

    8

    Detroit

    Stanley Johnson

    Stanley Johnson

    9

    Charlotte

    Frank Kaminsky

    Frank Kaminsky

    10

    Miami

    Justise Winslow

    Myles Turner

     

    2014

    Team

    Final Draft

    Mock Draft

    1

    Cleveland

    Andrew Wiggins

    Andrew Wiggins

    2

    Milwaukee

    Jabari Parker

    Jabari Parker

    3

    Philadelphia

    Joel Embiid

    Joel Embiid

    4

    Orlando

    Aaron Gordon

    Dante Exum

    5

    Utah

    Dante Exum

    Aaron Gordon

    6

    Boston

    Marcus Smart

    Marcus Smart

    7

    LA Lakers

    Julius Randle

    Julius Randle

    8

    Sacramento

    Nik Stauskas

    Noah Vonleh

    9

    Charlotte

    Noah Vonleh

    Doug McDermott

    10

    Orlando

    Elfrid Payton

    Nik Stauskas

     

     

    最難的 2013年選秀,落差最大,現在 CJ McCollum  的表現比 Victor Oladipo
    還猛,Anthony Bennett 至今也尚未洗刷最爛狀元封號的冤名。

    2013

    Team

    Final Draft

    Mock Draft

    1

    Cleveland

    Anthony Bennett

    Alex Len

    2

    Orlando

    Victor Oladipo

    Victor Oladipo

    3

    Washington

    Otto Porter

    Otto Porter

    4

    Charlotte

    Cody Zeller

    Nerlens Noel

    5

    Phoenix

    Alex Len

    Ben McLemore

    6

    New Orleans

    Nerlens Noel

    Trey Burke

    7

    Sacramento

    Ben McLemore

    CJ McCollum

    8

    Detroit

    Caldwell-Pope

    Carter-Williams

    9

    Utah

    Trey Burke

    Caldwell-Pope

    10

    Portland

    CJ McCollum

    Anthony Bennett

     

     



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  •  06-16-2017, 3:49 上午 511331 in reply to 511329

    Re: 2017 Draft

    Tier 1 Players:

    2009:
    Blake Griffin

    2010:
    John Wall

    2011:
    None

    2012:
    Anthony Davis

    2013:
    None

    2014:
    Joel Embiid, Jabari Parker, Andrew Wiggins

    2015:
    Karl-Anthony Towns

    2016:
    Ben Simmons

    2017:
    Lonzo Ball, Markelle Fultz

    _______________

    Tier 2 Players:

    2009:
    James Harden, Ricky Rubio, Hasheem Thabeet

    2010:
    DeMarcus Cousins, Derrick Favors, Wesley Johnson, Evan Turner

    2011:
    Kyrie Irving, Derrick Williams

    2012:
    Harrison Barnes, Bradley Beal, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, Thomas Robinson

    2013:
    None

    2014:
    Dante Exum, Aaron Gordon, Julius Randle, Dario Saric, Marcus Smart, Noah Vonleh

    2015:
    Emmanuel Mudiay, Jahlil Okafor, Kristaps Porzingis, D'Angelo Russell

    2016:
    Brandon Ingram

    2017:
    De'Aaron Fox, Jonathan Isaac, Josh Jackson, Lauri Markkanen, Malik Monk, Frank Ntilikina, Dennis Smith, Jayson Tatum

    _______________

    Tier 3 Players:

    2009:
    Stephen Curry, DeMar DeRozan, Tyreke Evans, Jonny Flynn, Jordan Hill, Jrue Holiday

    2010:
    Al-Farouq Aminu, Ed Davis, Greg Monroe

    2011:
    Enes Kanter, Brandon Knight, Kawhi Leonard, Jonas Valanciunas, Jan Vesely, Kemba Walker

    2012:
    Andre Drummond, Damian Lillard, Dion Waiters

    2013:
    Anthony Bennett, Alex Len, Ben McLemore, Nerlens Noel, Victor Oladipo, Otto Porter Jr.

    2014:
    Gary Harris, Doug McDermott, Nik Stauskas

    2015:
    Willie Cauley-Stein, Mario Hezonja, Justise Winslow

    2016:
    Dragan Bender, Jaylen Brown, Marquese Chriss, Kris Dunn, Jamal Murray

    2017:
    OG Anunoby, Zach Collins, Harry Giles, Luke Kennard, Donovan Mitchell

    _______________

    Tier 4 Players:

    2009:
    DeJuan Blair, Earl Clark, Austin Daye, Tyler Hansbrough, Gerald Henderson, Brandon Jennings, James Johnson, Ty Lawson, Eric Maynor, B.J. Mullens, DaJuan Summers, Jeff Teague, Terrence Williams, Sam Young

    2010:
    Cole Aldrich, Luke Babbitt, Eric Bledsoe, Avery Bradley, Gordon Hayward, Xavier Henry, Paul George, Daniel Orton, Patrick Patterson, Ekpe Udoh

    2011:
    Bismack Biyombo, Alec Burks, Jimmer Fredette, Marcus Morris, Chris Singleton, Klay Thompson, Tristan Thompson

    2012:
    John Henson, Perry Jones III, Terrence Jones, Jeremy Lamb, Meyers Leonard, Kendall Marshall, Austin Rivers, Terrence Ross, Jared Sullinger, Tyler Zeller

    2013:
    Steven Adams, Trey Burke, Michael Carter-Williams, Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, C.J. McCollum, Cody Zeller

    2014:
    Tyler Ennis, Rodney Hood, Zach LaVine, Jusuf Nurkic, Elfrid Payton, Adreian Payne, Kristaps Porzingis, James Young

    2015:
    Devin Booker, Sam Dekker, Jerian Grant, Stanley Johnson, Frank Kaminsky, Kevon Looney, Trey Lyles, Kelly Oubre, Cameron Payne, Bobby Portis, Myles Turner

    2016:
    Henry Ellenson, Buddy Hield, Furkan Korkmaz, Skal Labissiere, Dejounte Murray, Jakob Poeltl, Domantas Sabonis

    2017:
    Jarrett Allen, Ike Anigbogu, John Collins, Justin Patton

    _______________

    Tier 5 Players:

    2009:
    Derrick Brown, Chase Budinger, DeMarre Carroll, Omri Casspi, Darren Collison, Toney Douglas, Wayne Ellington, Taj Gibson, Patrick Mills, Jeff Pendergraph

    2010:
    Solomon Alabi, James Anderson, Craig Brackins, Jordan Crawford, Devin Ebanks, Keith Gallon, Darington Hobson, Damion James, Armon Johnson, Dominique Jones, Gani Lawal, Dexter Pittman, Tibor Pleiss, Quincy Pondexter, Stanley Robinson, Larry Sanders, Kevin Seraphin, Lance Stephenson, Jarvis Varnado, Hassan Whiteside, Elliot Williams

    2011:
    Davis Bertans, Marshon Brooks, Kenneth Faried, Jordan Hamilton, Tobias Harris, Tyler Honeycutt, Reggie Jackson, Nikola Mirotic, Darius Morris, Markieff Morris, Donatas Motiejunas, Josh Selby, Nikola Vucevic

    2012:
    Moe Harkless, Fab Melo, Quincy Miller, Arnett Moultrie, Andrew Nicholson, Marquis Teague, Royce White, Tony Wroten Jr.

    2013:
    Giannis Antetokounmpo, Reggie Bullock, Isaiah Canaan, Allen Crabbe, Gorgui Dieng, Jamaal Franklin, Rudy Gobert, Archie Goodwin, Erick Green, Tim Hardaway Jr., Pierre Jackson, Sergey Karasev, Shane Larkin, Ricardo Ledo, C.J. Leslie, Tony Mitchell, Shabazz Muhammad, Mike Muscala, Lucas Nogueira, Kelly Olynyk, Mason Plumlee, Glen Rice Jr., Dennis Schroeder, Tony Snell, Jeff Withey, Nate Wolters

    2014:
    Jordan Adams, Kyle Anderson, Clint Capela, Jordan Clarkson, Spencer Dinwiddie, Cleanthony Early, Jerami Grant, P.J. Hairston, Joe Harris, Artem Klimenko, K.J. McDaniels, Mitch McGary, Vasilije Micic, Shabazz Napier, Glenn Robinson III, Walter Tavares, Jarnell Stokes, T.J. Warren, C.J. Wilcox, Patric Young

    2015:
    Justin Anderson, Montrezl Harrell, Rondae Hollis-Jefferson, R.J. Hunter, Tyus Jones, Terry Rozier, Rashad Vaughn, Delon Wright

    2016:
    Wade Baldwin IV, Malik Beasley, DeAndre Bembry, Ben Bentil, Malcolm Brogdon, Deyonta Davis, Cheick Diallo, Juan Hernangomez, Demetrius Jackson, Brice Johnson, Damian Jones, Timothe Luwawu, Thon Maker, Patrick McCaw, Taurean Prince, Malachi Richardson, Diamond Stone, Tyler Ulis, Denzel Valentine, Ante Zizic, Ivica Zubac

    2017:
    Edrice Adebayo, Tony Bradley, Terrance Ferguson, Frank Jackson, Justin Jackson, TJ Leaf, Anzejs Pasecniks, Ivan Rabb, Caleb Swanigan, D.J. Wilson

    _______________

    Tier 6 Players:

    2009:
    Jon Brockman, Victor Claver, Nando De Colo, Danny Green, Jonas Jerebko, Jermaine Taylor, Marcus Thornton

    2010:
    [None]

    2011:
    Bojan Bogdanovic, Jimmy Butler, Norris Cole, Justin Harper, Charles Jenkins, JaJuan Johnson, Malcolm Lee, Travis Leslie, Jon Leuer, Shelvin Mack, Chandler Parsons, Kyle Singler, Iman Shumpert, Nolan Smith, Trey Thompkins, Jeremy Tyler, Jordan Williams

    2012:
    Furkan Aldemir, Will Barton, Jared Cunningham, Festus Ezeli, Evan Fournier, Draymond Green, John Jenkins, Orlando Johnson, Doron Lamb, Kyle O'Quinn, Kostas Papanikolaou, Miles Plumlee, Jeff Taylor, Tyshawn Taylor

    2013:
    Alex Abrines, Lorenzo Brown, Jackie Carmichael, James Ennis, Colton Iverson, Livio Jean-Charles, Grant Jerrett, Myck Kabongo, Ray McCallum, Nemanja Nedovic, Phil Pressey, Andre Roberson, B.J. Young

    2014:
    Thanasis Antetokounmpo, Bogdan Bogdanovic, Deonte Burton, Jahii Carson, Semaj Christon, DeAndre Daniels, C.J. Fair, Alessandro Gentile, Nick Johnson, Nikola Jokic, Rasmus Larsen, James Michael McAdoo, Jordan McRae, Johnny O'Bryant, Russ Smith

    2015:
    Cliff Alexander, Anthony Brown, Rakeem Christmas, Olivier Hanlan, Guillermo Hernangomez, Dakari Johnson, Jarell Martin, Chris McCullough, Cedi Osman, Robert Upshaw, Christian Wood, Joseph Young

    2016:
    Isaiah Cousins, Caris LeVert, Chinanu Onuaku, Gary Payton II, Zhou Qi, Jarrod Uthoff, Guerschon Yabusele, Stephen Zimmerman

    2017:
    Jordan Bell, Jonah Bolden, Thomas Bryant, Jawun Evans, Josh Hart, Isaiah Hartenstein, Tyler Lydon, Semi Ojeleye, Alec Peters, Monte Morris, Devin Robinson, Derrick White


    GO JAZZ!!!
  •  06-16-2017, 6:53 上午 511336 in reply to 510936

    Re: 2017 Draft

    我的 Draft Powerranking 2017

    Allstar

    1. Markelle Fultz, Playmaker

    Starter

    2. Lonzo Ball, Playmaker


    3. Jayson Tatum, Wing


    4. Dennis Smith Jr., Playmaker


    5. Josh Jackson, Wing


    6. Jonathan Isaac, Wing/Big


    7. Malik Monk, Wing


    role player

    8. Lauri Markkanen, Big


    9. Frank Ntilikina, Playmaker/Wing


    10.  Zach Collins, Big


    11.  Donovan Mitchell, Wing


    12.  De’Aaron Fox, Playmaker


    13.  OG Anunoby, Wing


    14.  Jarrett Allen, Big


    15.  Josh Hart, Wing


    16.  Luke Kennard, Wing


    17.  Isaiah Hartenstein, Big




    Bjork本人就是音樂!
  •  06-16-2017, 7:23 上午 511337 in reply to 511336

    Re: 2017 Draft

    今年前三不出 Fultz, Ball 和 Jackson, 76 人的作法應該是照舊, 選剩下的那一個

    不過, 球隊需要的第一優先是 PG, 拋開其他因素不談, Ball 其實是很合這隻球隊的, 比起其他待選 PG 如 Fox 和 Smith, Lonzo 能出手又相對不至於太黏球, 他碰觸球次數固然多, 但是他本人在場上卻是一直在移動的 

    Simmons 如果仍趕不上開季回歸, 選他就是個保險, Simmons 如果回來主控, Ball 也能去守到 SG 這個位置, 而且 Simmons 終究是個 Point Forward, 我覺得 BC 在暑假自由球員該追的不是 Lowry, 而是像 KCP 或 Avery Bradley 這樣防守能力強的後衛

    有 Ball 的球隊的優勢是, 球隊能多添射手, 而且又不用陷入慢速的半場進攻裡 ...



    Bjork本人就是音樂!
  •  06-16-2017, 5:29 下午 511348 in reply to 511337

    Re: 2017 Draft

    一個很簡單的道理:你找個新人來測試,不滿意,你會到處放話說他多糟嗎?

    當然不會。

    但湖人最近檯面上下放出的球兒負面消息也太多了,事出反常必有妖。 

  •  06-16-2017, 6:05 下午 511350 in reply to 511348

    Re: 2017 Draft

    Boston Celtics Reportedly Considering Josh Jackson with No. 1 Overall Pick

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2715979-boston-celtics-reportedly-considering-josh-jackson-with-no-1-overal-pick

    文中最後仍說,
    In his latest mock draft published Wednesday,
    Bleacher Report's Jonathan Wasserman projected Fultz to the Celtics at No. 1
    and Jackson to the Lakers at No. 2 overall.
    另一則,

    這裡是影片,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vD-3ZRbb-XY 
    Boston Celtics considering Josh Jackson with #1 pick | June 16, 2017
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    另一則更勁爆,Sources: Celtics, 76ers talking trade for No. 1


    Boston and Philadelphia are discussing a trade for the Celtics' No. 1 pick
    in next Thursday's NBA draft, sources say.
    The 76ers hold the No. 3 pick and would be in line to take Washington's Markelle Fultz.

    While it is widely assumed in league circles that
    the Sixers would target Fultz with the No. 1 overall pick,
    sources say Philadelphia and Boston are likewise high on Kansas forward Josh Jackson.

    這是最新的熱門話題。



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