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Shaq 出書討論與Kobe不合

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  •  11-02-2011, 10:34 上午 403070

    Shaq 出書討論與Kobe不合

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/In-new-book-Shaq-explains-how-his-relationship-;_ylt=Arj7nT56OGXnHNfNMdfiqpi8vLYF?urn=nba-wp9983 

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    So I'm on edge because I don't have a new deal, and Kobe is on edge because he might be going to jail, so we're taking it out on each other. Just before the start of the '03-'04 season the coaching staff called us in and said, "No more public sparring or you'll get fined." ... Phil was tired of it. Karl Malone and Gary Payton were sick of it. ... So what happens? Immediately after that Kobe runs right out to Jim Gray and does this interview where he lets me have it. He said I was fat and out of shape. He said I was milking my toe injury for more time off, and the injury wasn't even that serious. (Yeah, right. It only ended my damn career.) He said I was "lobbying for a contract extension when we have two Hall of Famers playing pretty much for free." I'm sitting there watching this interview and I'm gonna explode. Hours earlier we had just promised our coach we'd stop. It was a truce broken. I let the guys know, "I'm going to kill him."

    Kobe stands up and goes face-to-face with me and says, "You always said you're my big brother, you'd do anything for me, and then this Colorado thing happens and you never even called me." I did call him. ... So here we are now, and we find out he really was hurt that we didn't stand behind him. That was something new. I didn't think he gave a rat's ass about us either way. "Well, I thought you'd publicly support me, at least," Kobe said. "You're supposed to be my friend."

    Brian Shaw chimed in with "Kobe, why would you think that? Shaq had all these parties and you never showed up for any of them. We invited you to dinner on the road and you didn't come. Shaq invited you to his wedding and you weren't there. Then you got married and didn't invite any of us. And now you are in the middle of this problem, this sensitive situation, and now you want all of us to step up for you. We don't even know you." ...

    Everyone was starting to calm down when I told Kobe, "If you ever say anything like what you said to Jim Gray ever again, I will kill you."

    Kobe shrugged and said, "Whatever."
    [...]
    From that day on, I was done dealing with Kobe. I was done dealing with Jim Gray, too. What goes around, comes around. When he got fired, he actually had the nerve to call me and ask me to help him out. What, did you lose Kobe's number?

    Shaq adds:

    He was so young and so immature in some ways, but I can tell you this: everything Kobe is doing now, he told me all the way back then he was going to do it. We were sitting on the bus once and he told me, "I'm going to be the number one scorer for the Lakers, I'm going to win five or six championships, and I'm going to be the best player in the game." I was like, "Okay, whatever." Then he looked me right in the eye and said, "I'm going to be the Will Smith of the NBA."

    My first Lakers season we had a couple of rookies, and we hazed them pretty badly. We were dogging them out constantly. It was "Go get my bags, go get me something to eat." It was kind of a rite of passage in the NBA that a lot of teams do, but we probably went a little too far with it. One of the rookies—Derek Fisher(notes)—just took it. The other rookie—Kobe Bryant—ratted us out to Jerry West.

     So I'm on edge because I don't have a new deal, and Kobe is on edge because he might be going to jail 

    哈 要是Shaq的rap裡面有這麼厲害的詞應該饒舌生涯會好很多

     

    Anyway 幾個main point (當然這是Shaq的說法)

    03-04年 湖人教練團叫Shaq跟Kobe不要再在媒體前放砲 警告兩人說再有這種事要罰錢 過不久Kobe在跟Jim Gray的訪談中說Shaq是肥子 腳趾的傷不是真的 (Shaq的說法是這個傷毀了他的生涯) Shaq說幾小時前的停戰約定就這樣被毀了 他說"我要殺了Kobe"

    Kobe 跟Shaq面對面談. Kobe說" 你一直說你是我大哥 你會為了我做任何事 強暴案發生後你連通電話也沒打" (Shaq說他有打) Shaq第一次發現Kobe因為Shaq跟隊友沒有支持他感到很受傷 Shaq一直以為Kobe根本不在意隊友 Kobe又說 "我想說你至少會在公眾場合說你支持我 我以為我們是朋友"

    Brain Shaw 說" Kobe, 你為什麼會這麼認為? 我們邀請你去了好多Party 你都沒去 Shaq結婚時你也沒去 你結婚時也沒邀請我們 現在有事發生你就叫我們支持你 我們根本不認識真正的你"

    Shaq又說"你有種再說一次你跟Jim Gray說的話 我會殺了你"

    Kobe回 "隨便你"

    Shaq從那天起就不想理Kobe

     

    Kobe新秀球季 湖人老將們對他持續對新秀的羞辱 叫他跑腿買東西吃, 拿包包之類的 Shaq很不爽Kobe跟Jerry West抱怨

     

    不過也不是全負面的

    Shaq說"Kobe今天的成就 他以前就跟我說過了 他跟我說他要成為湖人史上的得分王 他要拿五六個冠軍 他要成為聯盟中最好的球員" 

  •  11-02-2011, 11:17 上午 403072 in reply to 403070

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    Re: Shaq 出書討論與Kobe不合

    繼 Phil Jackson 之後, 等好久終於等到了 Shaq 出書開幹 Kobe

    下一個換誰出手? Tex Winter? Jerry West? Jerry Buss?

     

     

  •  11-02-2011, 11:23 上午 403073 in reply to 403072

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    Re: Shaq 出書討論與Kobe不合

     

    相信這本書的銷售量應該不會太差

     

     


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  •  11-02-2011, 11:59 上午 403074 in reply to 403070

    Re: Shaq 出書討論與Kobe不合

    俠客自傳一定要買的阿!!!!

    不過還有兩個禮拜才出

    也好

    反正現在也沒時間看.....





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  •  11-02-2011, 12:37 下午 403075 in reply to 403073

    Re: Shaq 出書討論與Kobe不合

    湖人那幾年真的很厲害...

    年年都有問題球員(Rider)或是融入不了隊上的老將(Richmond, Rice)不說

    兩大主力這麼鉤心鬥角還可以拿三個冠軍.... 


  •  11-02-2011, 1:06 下午 403076 in reply to 403070

    Re: Shaq 出書討論與Kobe不合

    想看KOBE會怎麼回應

    畢竟都是由俠客一個人說

    只能聽聽就好!!


    那激情誘惑的氛圍 是我抵抗不了的原罪

  •  11-02-2011, 4:24 下午 403081 in reply to 403075

    Re: Shaq 出書討論與Kobe不合

    henrydu0:

    湖人那幾年真的很厲害...

    年年都有問題球員(Rider)或是融入不了隊上的老將(Richmond, Rice)不說

    兩大主力這麼鉤心鬥角還可以拿三個冠軍.... 

     

    因為當年的俠客實在是威到驚人,

    雖然剛好有中鋒荒,

    但是馬刺,國王,拓荒者,七六,

    前線實力都算是完整的了

    遇到他禁區感覺還是如同虛設, 

  •  11-02-2011, 7:41 下午 403091 in reply to 403081

    Re: Shaq 出書討論與Kobe不合

    easonwang23:
    henrydu0:

    湖人那幾年真的很厲害...

    年年都有問題球員(Rider)或是融入不了隊上的老將(Richmond, Rice)不說

    兩大主力這麼鉤心鬥角還可以拿三個冠軍.... 

     

    因為當年的俠客實在是威到驚人,

    雖然剛好有中鋒荒,

    但是馬刺,國王,拓荒者,七六,

    前線實力都算是完整的了

    遇到他禁區感覺還是如同虛設, 

    咳咳咳咳.....還有黑哨  咳咳咳咳

    當然是威力無人可擋大歐加上雖然不合但一開始身為小老弟還是某部份妥協的驚人新秀Kobe      搭配禪師的一些戰術還有人員配置     所以湖人三連霸

     


  •  11-02-2011, 11:23 下午 403097 in reply to 403081

    Re: Shaq 出書討論與Kobe不合

    easonwang23:
    henrydu0:

    湖人那幾年真的很厲害...

    年年都有問題球員(Rider)或是融入不了隊上的老將(Richmond, Rice)不說

    兩大主力這麼鉤心鬥角還可以拿三個冠軍.... 

     

    因為當年的俠客實在是威到驚人,

    雖然剛好有中鋒荒,

    但是馬刺,國王,拓荒者,七六,

    前線實力都算是完整的了

    遇到他禁區感覺還是如同虛設, 

    那三年的俠客真是聯盟獨走的絕對強悍,沒有二人包夾是守不了的

    派二人守 也還是要擔心俠客策應給隊友得分   一對一 不是被俠客吃假的不然就是用犯規來賭罰不進

    最常看的就是俠客只要接近禁區拿到球後 就是對方乾脆犯規給他罰球

    加上Kobe經過幾年磨練 當時也早是聯盟一級得分好手 

     

    最恐怖的...莫過於當年這二人一個正值顛峰,一個還很年輕而且二個人技巧都已成熟!!! 

    三連霸時期 就算始終沒有多穩定的第三點也無損歐布連線的強悍

     

    至於不合是真的也不意外,表現的太明顯了

    直到多年後雲淡風輕才慢慢釋懷

    反而覺得當時還有球迷不相信他們私下不合才厲害

  •  11-03-2011, 1:42 上午 403102 in reply to 403097

    Re: Shaq 出書討論與Kobe不合

    Kanelin:
    easonwang23:
    henrydu0:

    湖人那幾年真的很厲害...

    年年都有問題球員(Rider)或是融入不了隊上的老將(Richmond, Rice)不說

    兩大主力這麼鉤心鬥角還可以拿三個冠軍.... 

     

    因為當年的俠客實在是威到驚人,

    雖然剛好有中鋒荒,

    但是馬刺,國王,拓荒者,七六,

    前線實力都算是完整的了

    遇到他禁區感覺還是如同虛設, 

    那三年的俠客真是聯盟獨走的絕對強悍,沒有二人包夾是守不了的

    派二人守 也還是要擔心俠客策應給隊友得分   一對一 不是被俠客吃假的不然就是用犯規來賭罰不進

    最常看的就是俠客只要接近禁區拿到球後 就是對方乾脆犯規給他罰球

    加上Kobe經過幾年磨練 當時也早是聯盟一級得分好手 

     

    最恐怖的...莫過於當年這二人一個正值顛峰,一個還很年輕而且二個人技巧都已成熟!!! 

    三連霸時期 就算始終沒有多穩定的第三點也無損歐布連線的強悍

     

    至於不合是真的也不意外,表現的太明顯了

    直到多年後雲淡風輕才慢慢釋懷

    反而覺得當時還有球迷不相信他們私下不合才厲害

     

    樓上正解

     

    當時看到一些人

    居然會說歐尼爾和柯比私下是好朋友...從來沒吵架過...都媒體捕風捉影

     

    我都覺得很佩服這些人的思考...

    大概別人說1+1=8...他們也會信。 

  •  11-03-2011, 9:04 上午 403104 in reply to 403102

    Re: Shaq 出書討論與Kobe不合

    s789321:
    Kanelin:

     

    至於不合是真的也不意外,表現的太明顯了

    直到多年後雲淡風輕才慢慢釋懷

    反而覺得當時還有球迷不相信他們私下不合才厲害

    樓上正解


    當時看到一些人

    居然會說歐尼爾和柯比私下是好朋友...從來沒吵架過...都媒體捕風捉影

     

    我都覺得很佩服這些人的思考...

    大概別人說1+1=8...他們也會信。 

    哪些人? 

     

  •  11-03-2011, 9:15 上午 403105 in reply to 403073

    Re: Shaq 出書討論與Kobe不合

    Koala:

     

    相信這本書的銷售量應該不會太差

     

     

    真的

    也想看kobe會怎麼說XD


    大家好^^
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    桃園地區的網兄可以一起約打球阿!!
    (雖然我現在很爛XD)
  •  11-03-2011, 9:32 上午 403106 in reply to 403070

    Re: Shaq 出書討論與Kobe不合

    會飛的野獸:

    Brain Shaw 說" Kobe, 你為什麼會這麼認為? 我們邀請你去了好多Party 你都沒去 Shaq結婚時你也沒去 你結婚時也沒邀請我們 現在有事發生你就叫我們支持你 我們根本不認識真正的你"

    Shaq又說"你有種再說一次你跟Jim Gray說的話 我會殺了你"

    Kobe回 "隨便你"

    kobe就是這種個性自私自利.遇到真的硬板又縮起來的鳥咖 

      

     

  •  11-03-2011, 10:15 上午 403108 in reply to 403106

    Re: Shaq 出書討論與Kobe不合

  •  11-03-2011, 10:46 上午 403110 in reply to 403070

    Re: Shaq 出書討論與Kobe不合

    會飛的野獸:

    哈 要是Shaq的rap裡面有這麼厲害的詞應該饒舌生涯會好很多

    "check it, u know how i be, last week kobe can't do without me ...."

    he once rap about kobe in a new york nightclub after kobe lost the 2008 final, the beat and lyrics aren't too bad, i like it

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