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Allen Iverson 轉隊集中討論 (確定轉好後再開新隊伍討論)

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  •  12-10-2006, 9:12 上午 54516 in reply to 54109

    Re: AI 想去灰狼!! woot AIKG!! time to go for the ring !

    Zergege:

    是真的, 雖然兩位巨星都希望能夠合作, 不少球迷也想要看到他們兩人同隊

    但是決定權還是在老闆, 灰狼老闆已經公開聲明不會跟七六人交易了

    "No trade," Taylor said during the Wolves' 110-103 victory over Utah on Friday night at Target Center. "It isn't that I don't like him. Just money-wise, it wouldn't work out."

    轉自 http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/sports/basketball/16199928.htm

    還是錢方面的問題啊...真可惜, 誰知道這兩人如果同隊能擦出什麼樣的火花...?

    兩人加起來的球迷也相當可觀...聲勢驚人...

    最新消息是 AI 想要去 Bulls 或是 Celtics...而七六人想要順便交易 C-Webb (很困難)

    不過如果我是 Kings 的話應該是千方百計的不讓 AI 留在東區吧?

    祝福 Iverson...永遠的戰神, The one and only ANSWER...

    AI,千萬不要去celtics,那裡的現況並不比76人好得多

    Bulls還有點兒機會拿冠軍

  •  12-10-2006, 3:03 下午 54620 in reply to 54109

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    Re: AI 想去灰狼!! woot AIKG!! time to go for the ring !

    去塞爾蒂克不知有啥意義
    跟PP打雙人投籃賽?
    如果是換PP那更沒意義

    只是塞隊的總管也不是什麼有頭腦的交易好手
    說不定真的就換了....

    我希望費城老王是跟精明的總管交易
    最好是被狠狠敲一筆
    反正可以想見費城又要進入黑暗期了
  •  12-10-2006, 4:54 下午 54651 in reply to 54109

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    Re: AI 想去灰狼!! woot AIKG!! time to go for the ring !

    精明的總管?
    灰什麼熊的?

     

  •  12-10-2006, 5:02 下午 54655 in reply to 54109

    Re: AI 想去灰狼!! woot AIKG!! time to go for the ring !

    Gazer:



    我希望費城老王是跟精明的總管交易
    最好是被狠狠敲一筆
    反正可以想見費城又要進入黑暗期了

     

    其實跟老王比起來 大部分的GM都比老王精明.所以這點我們不用特別去希望.反正他一直都是這個樣子...

  •  12-11-2006, 12:50 上午 54933 in reply to 54655

    想問大家…

    對於AI要轉隊的新聞…我看了很多。好像有不同版本,有的是說AI主動要求被交易,有的是說球隊要交易他再把責任推給AI說是他自己想被交易的,對於這些大家的看法是…?AI要轉 WI
  •  12-11-2006, 9:49 上午 55056 in reply to 54933

    Re: 想問大家…

    Taylor Now Interested In Iverson
    10th December, 2006 - 12:09 pm
    Pioneer Press -
    On Friday, Glen Talyor said that there was no chance of Allen Iverson being traded to the Wolves, but on Saturday, he softened his stance.

    "I just think Allen Iverson on any team probably makes it better just because at any time, he's hard to stop," Taylor said. "You get towards the end of the game, he's a difficult player to stop. If you had some other guys around him and a guy like K.G. around him, it gives you some strong options at the end. He's a very unique player. A guy like him, (Phoenix's Steve) Nash, maybe (New Jersey's Jason) Kidd, these guys are very creative and probably would be helpful to almost any team with any combination around them.

    "McHale would have to find out if this is something Philly wants to do, how bad they want to do it. I would assume a number of teams would have some interest (in Iverson). It's not something you could just do very easily. (Garnett's) contract is so large, you'd have a lot of money tied up in two guys." [READ]

     

    新消息Minnisota 又有興趣了 還有ESPN有消息指出48小時內BK 會完成交易

    現在還再交易名單裡的球隊有 Minnisota, Pacers , Bulls, Celtics !!

    Do it Minnisota !! AI&KG for the ring!!

  •  12-11-2006, 12:50 下午 55116 in reply to 54506

    Re: AI 想去灰狼!! woot AIKG!! time to go for the ring !

    目前灰狼、小牛、金塊、騎士 GM都已經公開表明不會爭奪AI,雖然LBJ跟KG都還是很有興趣 !!

    檯面上剩下塞爾迪克、公牛、勇士還有不怕死的尼克。

    公牛願意送上 Ben Gordon,勇士 Richardson 說自己會被當作籌碼交易掉,塞爾迪克還在談,尼克 ............... 除了 Curry 我都送你 !! 

    目前腦殘的 King 不只想交易AI甚至還妄想打包 C-Web 一起送走,光是AI的薪資就已經嚇跑一堆人了,更別說打包C-Web

    照塞爾迪克的年輕陣容,兩個人大概可以換到一整隊吧 !!

  •  12-11-2006, 3:40 下午 55167 in reply to 55116

    Re: AI 想去灰狼!! woot AIKG!! time to go for the ring !

    這些哪些球隊對AI有興趣、沒興趣的傳聞

    個人認為是看看就好

    不必太認真

    這是NBA

    什麼事情都有可能發生

    大家應該還沒忘記上季peja換artest的事情吧!

    灰狼老闆的理由實在很沒說服力

    嫌AI太貴?

    AI貴是貴

    但是他的合約只到08~09球季

    灰狼自己的三大張爛約

    Blount、M.Jaric、Hudson的合約都是09~10球季或其後才會到期

    如果在交易AI來的同時

    能換走這三張爛約的其中兩張

    對灰狼來說是穩賺不賠

    AI不來灰狼老闆還不是要付Blount等人錢

    絕對不會省到啦

    身為KG球迷的我當然是樂見其成

    至少灰狼再也沒有打不好的理由

    在同一隊中有兩個MVP畢竟是不常見的

    從灰狼的情況來考慮

    M.James是一定要送走的

    反正他適應不良

    和AI同隊也絕對沒有他發揮的空間

    送到七六人是很合理的

    因此對灰狼來說最理想的坑七六人的交易是

    M.James+Blount、M.Jaric、Hudson的其中兩人打包給七六人

    七六人現在雖然是要認賠殺出的窘境

    但是應該也不至於會這麼認命

    如果是考量七六人的立場

    七六人會需要控球這是肯定的

    因為AI一走後全隊只剩下Ollie一個pg

    M.James、M.Jaric、Hudson當中會拿一到兩個是很合情理的

    當然也會把腦筋動到Foye身上

    而七六人的二三號其實算人手充足

    所以我不認為七六人會想要近況不佳的R.Davis或功能只有防守的Hassell

    禁區人手方面

    七六人應該不會想要跳投型中鋒Blount

    要跳投已經有尾大不掉的Webber了

    防守方面也已經有Dalembert、Hunter了

    大概也不會對打錯排檔桿的E.Griffin有興趣

    七六人需要的是在禁區有作戰能力的球員

    那就只剩下C.Smith了

    也就是說

    七六人除了需要用來應急的控球外

    對潛力新秀或選秀權的渴望一定比那些食之無味棄之可惜的球員如M.Jaric、Hudson來得高

    因此綜合一下雙方的可能需要

    M.James+Blount、M.Jaric、Hudson、Foye四人中的兩人再加上選秀權換AI

    對現階段的灰狼來說C.Smith比Foye還重要不太可能會動到他

    Blount、M.Jaric、Hudson至少可以走掉一人(尤其是後兩者)

    而四換一(三個球員加一選秀權)對七六人來說也不算吃虧

    該是雙方都能滿意的交易

    最後再揣測一下AI本人的想法

    若我是AI應該會比較想去公牛

    公牛是防守起家的球隊

    又有一堆潛力無限的年輕球員

    並且缺乏穩定的得分點、go to guy

    而其他的球隊如波士頓、金塊和灰狼

    原來就有老大了

    除了攻擊慾望低落的KG外

    另外兩隻球隊的老大都是得分型的鋒衛球員

    而AI的生涯中從來沒有搭配這種類型的球員可以搭配得很好的

    如之前的Stackhouse、大狗、Hughes也算

    PP和Melo在得分方面也只會比這些球員更強勢

    相較之下

    公牛的確是較好的選擇

    不過七六人高層這時候還會顧慮AI的想法和處境嗎?


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  •  12-11-2006, 5:53 下午 55223 in reply to 55307

    灰狼老闆改變心意 有意換來艾佛森

    說AI是和Nash、Kidd般的偉大控衛, 有機會以Randy Foye、Mike James或Troy Hudson 等人作為交易條件。

    原文如下:THE ANSWER IS... Taylor says he might be interested
    >
    >CHICAGO — Timberwolves owner Glen Taylor softened his stance on the possibility of acquiring Philadelphia 76ers all-star Allen Iverson on Saturday, saying it could be something to consider.
    >
    >Speculation is swirling that Iverson could be traded to the Wolves, who have missed the playoffs the past two seasons and are off to a 9-9 start this season.
    >
    >Iverson, a four-time NBA scoring leader, is one of the league's most exciting players. He is averaging 31.2 points a game and could take some of the load off Wolves all-star Kevin Garnett, who on Saturday reiterated his desire to play with Iverson in the wake of Friday's news that the 76ers guard had asked to be traded.
    >
    >After Saturday's win against Chicago improved the Wolves to 10-9, Garnett said Iverson is "an unbelievable talent" who would fit in right away.
    >
    >On Friday, Taylor said there would be no trade because pairing Iverson's big salary with Garnett's would be prohibitive, but on Saturday he eased off his initial reaction.

     

    轉貼於:NBA巴哈版

    如果真的有機會 AI跟KG或許是超級明星檔了

  •  12-11-2006, 6:17 下午 55226 in reply to 55307

    Re: 灰狼老闆改變心意 有意換來艾佛森

    總算是給了球迷一點希望...

    禮拜五斬釘截鐵的說不可能...相信不少球迷聽了心都涼了一半...

    搞不好在灰狼主場會出現一些 "We Want the Answer" 之類的告示牌 ^^

    個人想聽聽灰狼球迷的看法...你們歡迎 AI 的到來嗎?

    他的年齡, 打法, 以及態度會對球隊, 分組, 甚至西區帶來什麼影響呢?

    雖然講這些實在太早了...要再看到 Iverson 打球應該要等上好一段時間

    今天看 EPSN Mark Stein 的文章, 他覺得 King 應該慢慢等待交易 AI 的機會

    參考去年 Artest 突然放話說要離開的例子...等待其他球隊慢慢把籌碼增加

  •  12-11-2006, 6:21 下午 55228 in reply to 55307

    Re: 灰狼老闆改變心意 有意換來艾佛森

    如果說AI只值這一些普通球員,又沒有第一輪選秀

    和灰狼交易不可能發生...

    對照去年的阿泰..

    交易可能到明年才看的到結果,目前各球隊經理只是在剝削76人

  •  12-11-2006, 7:37 下午 55243 in reply to 55307

    Re: 灰狼老闆改變心意 有意換來艾佛森

    Curtis:

    如果說AI只值這一些普通球員,又沒有第一輪選秀

    和灰狼交易不可能發生...

    對照去年的阿泰..

    交易可能到明年才看的到結果,目前各球隊經理只是在剝削76人

    問題是...現在由小艾提出賣我~球隊跟小艾的心已經沒有交集了,像目前就一直把小艾冰在板凳中,也沒有讓他再打了,難道打算一直關著他嗎?等他乖了再放出來嗎??不可能吧??七六人目前只有丟出小艾這一步時...各隊削他們也是可想而知的,當時交易偉伯時,不也是小削了國王一筆(我個人認為那次交易是七六人賺到,先不論後來融入問題啦!!)現在七六人只能看各隊提出的條件,哪個比較好,哪個損失較小....女兒急著想嫁了,父母還可能跟親家要求太多聘金嗎??

     

  •  12-11-2006, 8:49 下午 55259 in reply to 55167

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    Re: AI 想去灰狼!! woot AIKG!! time to go for the ring !

    公牛其實不用換脽來了...我覺得還是好好培養這些淺力無窮的選手吧....

    她們缺的是配合...穩定...當然76人如跟她們交易是比較好啦...必進公牛有得分爆發力強的選手比較不窺= = ......總之就慢慢觀賞這場重大的交易吧....

  •  12-11-2006, 11:32 下午 55304 in reply to 55541

    好像國王也加入搶人行列了...

    哇!!怎麼辦~看不太懂,有哪位大大可以說一下內容...

    The hot topic in the NBA this weekend was the demand of Philadelphia 76ers guard Allen Iverson to be traded.

    The Kings appear to be part of that conversation.

    Since Friday, the Kings have been added to the short list of teams that are said to be -- according to various reports -- discussing trade options with the 76ers. On Sunday, a league source confirmed to The Bee that the Kings are involved, though it is not known whether they are pursuing Iverson or perhaps part of a deal involving more than two teams, or what they are offering.

    The source declined to be identified because he was not authorized to discuss the deal.

    At the Kings' game against Atlanta on Sunday, Kings president of basketball operations Geoff Petrie would not say if he was in discussions involving Iverson.

    "As a matter of rule, we do not discuss possible trades," he said.

    Kings co-owners Joe and Gavin Maloof were also tight-lipped, even beyond the question of whether they're pursuing Iverson.

    "Talk to Geoff, because I don't know," Joe Maloof said by phone.

    Gavin Maloof paused before answering.

    "Hmmm," he said. "You're going to have to ask Geoff."

    Asked if he was a fan of Iverson's game, Gavin wouldn't comment.

    "Well, I don't want to say, I don't want to say," Gavin said. "Check with Geoff."

    Kings swingman John Salmons, a teammate of Iverson last season, was shocked by the news of Iverson's demands -- and owner Ed Snider's approval to pursue a deal.

    "Just having been in that situation, I wanted to know what was going on," Salmons said. "I was surprised that he said it, that he actually said it."

    If the Kings were, in fact, trying to land Iverson in Sacramento, the most obvious deal would likely involve the swapping of point guards. Kings point guard Mike Bibby -- who has an early termination option on his contract that would allow him to become a free agent after this season despite two seasons being left on his deal -- is owed $12.5 million for this season. Including the $18.2 million Iverson will make this season, his deal has three seasons and approximately $59 million remaining.

    The Kings would have to add a piece or two to make the deal work, as the players' salaries in a trade must be within 125 percent of each other. They also have five players with expiring contracts that could be attractive to Philadelphia, allowing them to clear up salary cap space for next season: Corliss Williamson, Jason Hart, Vitaly Potapenko, Ronnie Price and Maurice Taylor.

    The Kings also have a glut of younger players with promise to offer, from the seemingly untouchable Kevin Martin ($1 million this season) to second-year swingman Francisco García (approximately $1.1 million) and rookie Quincy Douby ($1.2 million).

    The interesting subplot would be in the history between Iverson and two of the current Kings players. Former 76ers Kenny Thomas and Salmons were both relieved to leave Philadelphia and have often spoken of the difficulties that come with playing with an offensive star who dominates both the opposition and the ball.

    Salmons, in fact, was hired partly on the basis of how well he produced for the 76ers when Iverson wasn't on the floor, with Petrie saying when he signed him that Salmons showed his true potential then.

    "It is what it is," Salmons said. "If he ended up here, I'd play with him. I'd welcome him in."

    Kings small forward Ron Artest, whose trade demands from Indiana a year ago led to his Sacramento stop, said he was more concerned with the current crop than whether Iverson would work with the team.

    "We had a nice little (run) last year. Had a chance to win a lot of games, do a lot of damage, and just need to build on that this year," Artest said.

  •  12-11-2006, 11:39 下午 55307 in reply to 55116

    Re: AI 想去灰狼!! woot AIKG!! time to go for the ring !

    灰狼GM 禮拜六改口 有興趣
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