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TOR@DET 大球陣容來了:Hamilton當第六人(球評說的......)

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  •  01-21-2009, 10:27 上午 224360

    TOR@DET 大球陣容來了:Hamilton當第六人(球評說的......)

     
    The Official Pistons.com Blog
    True Blue Pistons
    Posted Tuesday, January 20, 2009
    Hamilton becomes sixth man; lineup change is permanent
     
    For six seasons, the surest thing in Detroit sports was Chauncey Billups and Rip Hamilton lining up in the Pistons’ backcourt. One half of the union dissolved two games into the 2008-09 season when Joe Dumars traded Billups to Denver for Allen Iverson.
     

    The other shoe dropped Tuesday when Michael Curry made the decision to bring Hamilton off the bench, ending the small-ball experiment that had Tayshaun Prince playing power forward and Hamilton lining up at small forward to accommodate an Iverson-Rodney Stuckey backcourt.

     Here are the nuts and bolts and ramifications of the move:

    •  Amir Johnson, who didn’t play in Monday’s win at Memphis, will be the starter alongside Rasheed Wallace most nights. But against really big teams – Curry cited the Lakers, with 7-footers Andrew Bynum and Pau Gasol – Kwame Brown will be the starter.
     
    • Hamilton will anchor a second unit that will include Antonio McDyess and Jason Maxiell at the power positions with Will Bynum at point guard.
     
    • It’s not an experiment. “This is for the rest of the season,” Curry said.
     
    All bets are off in the fourth quarter. Many other teams also go small in the fourth quarter in an effort to put their five best players out to finish games. Hamilton will be just as likely to finish games as Iverson or Stuckey or anyone else. And his minutes shouldn’t change much, if at all.
  • Curry broke the news to Hamilton on Tuesday morning and Hamilton gave every indication he’s ready to embrace the sixth-man role.

    “You want to win games and me and Allen both knew (what was being considered),” Hamilton said after Tuesday’s practice. “When they told me I was coming off the bench, it was something MC wanted to do and I said, fine. Bottom line, you want to win games and if that’s the best way that we can go out there and try to win a championship, then I’m all for it.”

    Curry said the decision to bring Hamilton off the bench instead of Iverson was driven by a number of factors.

    Even though the Pistons’ defensive ranking has climbed to fourth in both scoring and field-goal percentage, he thought the defensive and rebounding tone set by the small lineup in the first quarter put the Pistons in a hole they had to fight the rest of the game.

    He didn’t want Iverson playing alongside Bynum, leaving the Pistons vulnerable defensively with two undersized guards. By putting Iverson with the better shooters of the first unit, he hopes space is created for Iverson to exploit with his attacking style; conversely, he thought playing Iverson with the second unit would encourage defenses to gang up on him. Hamilton’s style of coming off screens, he figures, will allow him to remain in much the same role he’s played in his first six seasons with the Pistons – only he’ll be the clear go-to scorer of the bunch and should squeeze off more shots per minute.

    It worked that way in the win over Memphis, when Hamilton – after going 0 for 1 in the first quarter while playing with Iverson – went 6 for 6 in the second playing mostly with four other reserves: Maxiell, McDyess, Bynum and Arron Afflalo.

    “We’ve got two great scorers on this team, bottom line – me and Allen,” Hamilton said. “And we’ve got to figure out a way for us to be our best out there. We got a good rhythm going yesterday in the game, so hopefully we can continue it because we want to go far.”

    “We feel we’re better defensively and rebounding wise with (the bigger lineup) and we’ve struggled sometimes being able to score points in the beginning of the second and fourth quarter,” Curry said. “We think by featuring Rip during that time, we can do that and it also allows Will Bynum to play with Rip and not just give Stuckey rest, but be able to play also and we want to make sure we incorporate him into the mix.”

    Bringing Hamilton off the bench balances the rotation and, Curry said, puts the Pistons’ depth back into play. Playing Prince for 16 to 20 minutes a game at power forward effectively cut that many minutes of playing time out of the pool for Maxiell, Johnson and Brown.

    The Pistons had won two games in December with Hamilton in the lineup when his groin injury caused him to miss eight games after the Pistons had gone 5-3 with the small lineup. They went on to win five more in a row with a more conventional starting lineup that included Johnson at power forward.

    Curry commented frequently over those few weeks that he thought the Pistons were better defensively and could hold their own on the backboards with the bigger lineup, but he moved Hamilton back into the starting lineup as soon as he was cleared to play. Why? Because the decision to move the franchise’s leading scorer each of the past six seasons to the bench isn’t to be taken lightly. More evidence was needed that the small lineup couldn’t overcome some of its shortcomings with the offensive firepower it had on paper.

    But a five-game losing streak answered enough of the doubts that Curry felt the time was right to make the switch.

    “Maybe if we had taken care of business this past week and gone 4-1, then we’d be 9-4 with the small lineup,” Curry said. “There’s still an argument that maybe you can go with the small lineup and sub quicker and move guys around that way. But we just weren’t big enough. Starting the games off in the first quarter, defensively we never set the tone and we were playing catch-up from a defensive and rebounding standpoint for the rest of the game.”

  •  http://www.nba.com/pistons/news/truebluepistons.html

  •  01-21-2009, 10:42 上午 224364 in reply to 224360

    Re: TOR@DET 大球陣容來了:小王子當第六人(球評說的......)

    小王子去當第六人

    那第一線鋒衛搖擺人的防守咧!!

    放給他去了嗎- -?

    問題是出在AI和Hamilton位置重疊上

    而且Prince是先發五人之中

    比較少失常的

    我想到時又是個大問題吧!!

     


    那激情誘惑的氛圍 是我抵抗不了的原罪

  •  01-21-2009, 10:46 上午 224366 in reply to 224360

    Re: TOR@DET 大球陣容來了:小王子當第六人(球評說的......)

    說真的...

    有種被耍的感覺...

    之前7連勝時Curry對記者的說法也是這樣= =...

    希望這次真的能夠說到做到.....

    真的是委屈Rip了....

  •  01-21-2009, 10:49 上午 224368 in reply to 224364

    Re: TOR@DET 大球陣容來了:小王子當第六人(球評說的......)

    E N J O Y:

    小王子去當第六人

    那第一線鋒衛搖擺人的防守咧!!

    放給他去了嗎- -?

    問題是出在AI和Hamilton位置重疊上

    而且Prince是先發五人之中

    比較少失常的

    我想到時又是個大問題吧!!

     

    對不起...

    打太快了

    把Hamilton錯打成小王子了.....

    原諒我太興奮了......

    失誤失誤

  •  01-21-2009, 10:51 上午 224369 in reply to 224368

    Re: TOR@DET 大球陣容來了:小王子當第六人(球評說的......)

    spound:
    E N J O Y:

    小王子去當第六人

    那第一線鋒衛搖擺人的防守咧!!

    放給他去了嗎- -?

    問題是出在AI和Hamilton位置重疊上

    而且Prince是先發五人之中

    比較少失常的

    我想到時又是個大問題吧!!

     

    對不起...

    打太快了

    把Hamiton錯打成小王子了.....

    原諒我太興奮了......

    失誤失誤

    沒關係

    我自己也沒先看內文

    只憑你的標題就亂回- -


    那激情誘惑的氛圍 是我抵抗不了的原罪

  •  01-21-2009, 11:26 上午 224374 in reply to 224360

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    Re: TOR@DET 大球陣容來了:Hamilton當第六人(球評說的......)

    但願RIP可以心甘情願的打替補

    如果能發揮項MANU的七成

    活塞戰績可能會好看許多....


    No Practice No Win
  •  01-21-2009, 11:29 上午 224376 in reply to 224369

    Re: TOR@DET 大球陣容來了:小王子當第六人(球評說的......)

    要是真的有做出改變那活塞迷應該都很樂見

    靜觀其變~

  •  01-21-2009, 1:35 下午 224388 in reply to 224376

    Re: TOR@DET 大球陣容來了:小王子當第六人(球評說的......)

    這樣還是不行了話..

    是不是勢必要再有所交易..?


    kuso

  •  01-21-2009, 2:16 下午 224392 in reply to 224388

    Re: TOR@DET 大球陣容來了:小王子當第六人(球評說的......)

    oxyzox:

    這樣還是不行了話..

    是不是勢必要再有所交易..?

    大概就濫下去等明年兩個大合約到期,

    準備2010撈大魚。

     



  •  01-21-2009, 4:22 下午 224405 in reply to 224369

    Re: TOR@DET 大球陣容來了:小王子當第六人(球評說的......)

    E N J O Y:
    spound:
    E N J O Y:

    小王子去當第六人

    那第一線鋒衛搖擺人的防守咧!!

    放給他去了嗎- -?

    問題是出在AI和Hamilton位置重疊上

    而且Prince是先發五人之中

    比較少失常的

    我想到時又是個大問題吧!!

     

    對不起...

    打太快了

    把Hamiton錯打成小王子了.....

    原諒我太興奮了......

    失誤失誤

    沒關係

    我自己也沒先看內文

    只憑你的標題就亂回- -

    你也知道自己很喜歡光看標題就亂回?

    既然知道就不要再回一些沒有內容和意義的文了

    不然看了很刺眼

     

  •  01-22-2009, 5:30 上午 224468 in reply to 224405

    Re: TOR@DET 大球陣容來了:小王子當第六人(球評說的......)

    我現在只希望教練下來而已

    這樣東練一個 西練一個   感覺練不出個什麼   而且Curry教練執教應該已經到了一個極限了    需要換個有經驗的教練

    也多給K.Brown一些機會吧  雖然他有時候還是比較晃神    但好歹也都簽來了    多讓他上場   對整個活塞利大於弊啊

    小球陣容根本就只是要讓活塞的進攻火力更具有威脅   場上先發都是為了進攻來的    陣容變小防守勢必比較辛苦   又不是當年的太陽隊


  •  01-22-2009, 7:56 上午 224473 in reply to 224360

    Re: TOR@DET 大球陣容來了:Hamilton當第六人(球評說的......)

    活塞要調整調度
    除了先發以外
    一些球員也要運用靈活
    這點
    光是我認為 Michael Curry 的教練初體驗式不及格的
    應該這麼認為
    Joe Dumars 太早把 Flip Saunders 炒魷魚了
    如果說去年季後賽征戰的失利
     Saunders 已經是代罪羔羊
    何必再去交易掉 Chauncey Billups
    很可能的原因就是不和的就是 Saunders 與 Billups

    而 Joe Dumars 是不是以為只要  Billups 也走掉
    這一批球員可以慢慢回歸球場內
    而不是情緒性的問題

    我認為這件事應該是不法回頭了
    Hamilton 一歸隊
    Prince 跟 Stuckey 又開始亂打
    Hamilton 跟 Chauncey Billups 的心是該是相連的吧 !

    目前活塞的麻煩
    我認為
    處理調度的問題
    不如處理 Hamilton
    教練頭腦鈍
    只好靠大牌了

    建議活塞與西區第九的小牛做交易
    小牛送出 Josh Howard
    活塞送出 Richard Hamilton


    Jeremy Lin
    Be yourself,try your best !
  •  01-22-2009, 9:30 上午 224495 in reply to 224473

    Re: TOR@DET 大球陣容來了:Hamilton當第六人(球評說的......)

    kobe8best:
    活塞要調整調度
    除了先發以外
    一些球員也要運用靈活
    這點
    光是我認為 Michael Curry 的教練初體驗式不及格的
    應該這麼認為
    Joe Dumars 太早把 Flip Saunders 炒魷魚了
    如果說去年季後賽征戰的失利
     Saunders 已經是代罪羔羊
    何必再去交易掉 Chauncey Billups
    很可能的原因就是不和的就是 Saunders 與 Billups

    而 Joe Dumars 是不是以為只要  Billups 也走掉
    這一批球員可以慢慢回歸球場內
    而不是情緒性的問題

    我認為這件事應該是不法回頭了
    Hamilton 一歸隊
    Prince 跟 Stuckey 又開始亂打
    Hamilton 跟 Chauncey Billups 的心是該是相連的吧 !

    目前活塞的麻煩
    我認為
    處理調度的問題
    不如處理 Hamilton
    教練頭腦鈍
    只好靠大牌了

    建議活塞與西區第九的小牛做交易
    小牛送出 Josh Howard
    活塞送出 Richard Hamilton

    J.Howard是我最討厭的球員之一

    可以換快艇的Camby嗎......

  •  01-22-2009, 10:31 上午 224510 in reply to 224495

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    Re: TOR@DET 大球陣容來了:Hamilton當第六人(球評說的......)

    spound:

    kobe8best:
    活塞要調整調度
    除了先發以外
    一些球員也要運用靈活
    這點
    光是我認為 Michael Curry 的教練初體驗式不及格的
    應該這麼認為
    Joe Dumars 太早把 Flip Saunders 炒魷魚了
    如果說去年季後賽征戰的失利
     Saunders 已經是代罪羔羊
    何必再去交易掉 Chauncey Billups
    很可能的原因就是不和的就是 Saunders 與 Billups

    而 Joe Dumars 是不是以為只要  Billups 也走掉
    這一批球員可以慢慢回歸球場內
    而不是情緒性的問題

    我認為這件事應該是不法回頭了
    Hamilton 一歸隊
    Prince 跟 Stuckey 又開始亂打
    Hamilton 跟 Chauncey Billups 的心是該是相連的吧 !

    目前活塞的麻煩
    我認為
    處理調度的問題
    不如處理 Hamilton
    教練頭腦鈍
    只好靠大牌了

    建議活塞與西區第九的小牛做交易
    小牛送出 Josh Howard
    活塞送出 Richard Hamilton

    J.Howard是我最討厭的球員之一

    可以換快艇的Camby嗎......

    +1

    個人認為Campy本季可怕的籃板能力會給活塞很大加分作用


    No Practice No Win
  •  01-22-2009, 11:09 上午 224521 in reply to 224510

    Re: TOR@DET 大球陣容來了:Hamilton當第六人(球評說的......)

    這個 Marcus Camby

    ..........

    玻璃腿他 ...
    養傷去了
    本季還不知何時回到球場 ?
    Jeremy Lin
    Be yourself,try your best !
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