wuwuisaac: foreveryoung: wuwuisaac: foreveryoung:
恩 我也是 但是注意您說的 "以前"
現在就是資本主義發展到極限的 M型化 有錢的隊 花大錢 挖角 拿冠軍
沒錢球隊抽到好球員 還是只能交易出去 年年擺濫
球員也視錢為重點 如 Boozer 或是為了拿冠軍 湊全明星先發 無過去的忠誠度可言 以前我支持爵士 因為他就是那種一路帶隊 辛苦成長的風格
現在要支持一個明星跟一個球隊直到他從新人到冠軍到退休 恐怕選擇性不多 人人都是可交易籌碼 人人都思變
當年一想到 Jazz 就是 馬史連線 一想到公牛 就是 Jordan /Pippen 一想到 Celtics 就是 Bird, Machale, 馬刺就是 Duncan , Robinson. 紐約就是 Ewing, 那種隊伍與明星間的聯想所產生的感動 與崇拜....
現在 則不一定 Carter , Iverson, KG, Kidd, Allen, Gasol, Brand , O'neal 都是一流明星 卻也讓支持他的人 不能專於一隊
哪天說不定 蜂王都不在黃蜂 說不定 LBJ 跟 Kobe 連線
比賽對我而言 也不像過去 那麼激情 感動了 現在太多商業包裝 太多銅臭味 太多週邊 太多秀 太多人為 太多自負
比賽本身 的競爭 才是 NBA 的精采重點 已經反而漸漸偏離了
如同現代 美國女人 胖子一堆 沒腦的金髮 好萊屋 女星也太多 隆乳 假豐唇 虛偽敗金 甚至 A片也沒感情劇情
還是80~90年代的 美國 比較美
黃金時代已經遠離 剩下的只是金錢本色 與被蹧蹋殆盡 的地球環境
我覺得話不能這麼說 籃球畢竟是團隊運動 每個人扮演的腳色都不一樣 說找來大咖球員就能保證冠軍 我不這麼認為
一個好的球隊 都要有一個優秀的喜歡肢體碰撞(甚至帶一點骯髒)的防守球員
這是我這麼認為的 明星球員再多 有時候不見得有用 湖人F4的失敗 都是明星卻沒有一個
從以前的冠軍公牛的小蟲 湖人的 HORRY + FISHER + GEORGE
馬刺有 BOWEN 活塞有BIG BEN
CELTICS以及 HEAT的奪冠年有JAMES POSEY 有這些球員 隊上的主將才可以好好發揮
甚至這些球員給隊上(尤其是板凳)帶來的 ENERGY 更是有幫助
今年 幾隻爭冠的球隊 騎士隊 (有 VAREJAO) 魔術隊 (有 BARNES) 湖人隊 (有 ARTEST)
CELTICS ? 目前還沒有這樣的人 所以 奪冠絕對是在現在這三隊之中
湖人F4的失敗 都是明星卻沒有一個 從以前的冠軍公牛的小蟲
F4 的失敗 在於 Malone 的倒下 Malone 可是比小蟲還好用的人 能功能守 他當時守住了 Duncan , KG 可是後來因為受傷.......
因為受傷 然後擁有KO連線 以及 手套PAYTON 的湖人輸給了活塞?
問題就在於能攻能守能攻 就需要球
小蟲可以從頭到尾都不拿球 還能保持百分之一百的防守干擾專注力
你大概沒看球吧 當時Malone 在湖人 得分不多10幾分
因為主要進攻點在 Kobe ,O'neal 他幾乎都在幹髒活 姚明 Duncan KG 他可是可以一對一去守的
加上他又有進攻能力 是非常大的威脅 而他的籃板 跟傳球 檔人走位 也不錯
Kobe O'neal 有心結 (Kobe 心態上當時未成熟) Gary Payton 其實個性上 也頗為自負 實力體能上則是下滑
Malone 在湖人 算是身分地位最高的 但是看出是最任勞任怨的 場上最拼命的 他算是湖人F4的接合劑 很多數據上看不出的貢獻
事實上 還記得 他在湖人 的時候還拿過一次大三元 這很不容易因為年齡好像 已經 40
Malone 離開湖人退休 除了受傷 還有一個原因 好像是這個:
Kobe 'upset' about Malone's comments to wife
At one point when Vanessa asked Malone why he was wearing a cowboy hat, Malone replied “I am hunting for young Mexican girls” and at that point Vanessa walked away. Malone did not seem to draw any line and was outrageous in asking Vanessa directly” Do you like me”. Not surprising as to why Kobe feels hurt and left out.
(意思是 Kobe 不爽 Malone 跟他的太太亂開玩笑調情 這也是內部不和諧的因素之一)
The Kobe Bryant-Karl Malone feud has turned personal, with Bryant accusing Malone of making a pass at his wife at a Lakers game.
Rob Pelinka, the agent for Bryant, told ESPN.com on Sunday night that Malone made "several inappropriate comments" to Bryant's wife, Vanessa, on Nov. 23 at a Los Angeles Lakers home game against the Milwaukee Bucks.
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"Kobe and Karl had a true friendship, much more than teammates," Pelinka said. "Their wives are quite friendly as well. Kobe has told me that he feels very hurt and betrayed by what has happened."
Malone, in Arkansas working at his logging farm, declined to address accusations by Bryant.
"Misery loves company," Malone told USA Today in Tuesday's edition. "This is a Hollywood soap opera, and I'm not going to be a star in another Bryant soap opera."
Malone also said his wife, Kay, responded privately by letter Monday to the Bryants and Lakers owner Jerry Buss.
Bryant said to reporters before Sunday night's game against Orlando, "The comments that [Malone] said, I don't know any man in this room that wouldn't be upset about that. The past month, myself, my wife, [Malone's wife] Kay, we've had fun together. We've been out to their house, just joking around, giving each other a hard time, just clowning, being sarcastic with one another, baby-sitting kids and all that."
Asked if there could have been a misunderstanding, Bryant said, "What he said is what he said. I believe in my heart that it wasn't a misunderstanding. My wife wasn't going to stand for it. She felt uncomfortable being around him to the point that she felt she had to call his wife and tell her."
Bryant said Malone didn't deny making the comments and told him during their phone conversation, "Aw, you know, I'm sorry if I said anything that was out of line." Added Bryant, "He was like a mentor, like a brother to me, so when something like that happens, you're upset, you're hurt."
Malone's agent, Dwight Manley, told the Los Angeles Times on Sunday that Malone was asked by Vanessa Bryant, "Hey, cowboy, what are you hunting?" in reference to Malone wearing a cowboy hat and boots.
"She said it twice," Manley said, "and Karl answered, 'I'm hunting for little Mexican girls.' "
Manley said Malone told him he had never made a pass at Bryant's wife, that he was surprised by the accusation, and that he then apologized to both Bryant and his wife for any remarks she might have considered inappropriate.
"Karl's response to Kobe's comments today is that he's a basketball player and not a soap opera actor and he doesn't intend to be involved in a personal soap opera," Manley said of his client.
Pelinka, who works for SFX and has been Bryant's agent for four years, said he was told what transpired last month by Kobe and Vanessa Bryant.
"Karl and his son were at the game sitting in the front row," Pelinka said. "Vanessa was on the cell phone talking to Karl's wife, Kay, and Vanessa said that her son looked bored. Kay told her to call Karl to have her son join her in her seats. Kay gave Vanessa Karl's cell number and she called him. When she called, Karl's response was, 'Why don't you come over here and sit next to me and give me a big hug?' Vanessa said, 'Why? For what?' And Karl replied, 'If you do that it will be on the cover of every magazine in the country.'
"Vanessa didn't know what to say because this was the first time she had ever spoken to Malone without Kobe or Kay being around. Karl continued. 'Do you like me?' Malone asked her, to which Vanessa said, 'As my friend, Kay's husband,' " Pelinka said.
"From there Malone asked Vanessa if she could keep a secret, and that he would like to tell her something. At which point Vanessa told him she was a married woman and he was a married man who was old enough to be her father. To which Malone replied, 'Oh, like your daddy?' At that point she told me she ended the conversation," Pelinka said.
In the second half of the game, Malone sent his son to sit with the Bryants.
"Vanessa told me that she just was very uncomfortable at halftime and that Karl was acting and saying weird things." said Pelinka. "When the game ended, Vanessa walked Malone's son back to Karl. She told me that she asked Malone why he was wearing that [cowboy] hat. His response was, 'I'm hunting for young Mexican girls.' At which point Vanessa just walked away."
On the car ride home, Vanessa Bryant told Kobe what had happened. Vanessa decided to call Kay Malone and tell her about the way her husband had spoken to her. After they hung up, Kobe Bryant called Karl Malone on his cell phone.
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"Kobe told me that Karl just listened and didn't deny any of it. Kobe said Karl's only reply was, 'You know me, man.' To which Kobe told him, 'That's right, I do know you -- and stay away from my wife,' " said Pelinka. "The next day, with all four of them on the phone, Karl denied it. At that point the Bryants knew that there was nothing left to talk about since they knew Karl wasn't telling the truth. Vanessa told me that she told Kay that she [Vanessa] wanted her [Kay] to know 'just exactly what your husband [Karl] did, and you do what you want with the information.' "
Last week Bryant said in a radio interview on XTRA that it was his intuition that Malone would retire. That comment led Malone to reply that he did not want to be a distraction to the Lakers and blamed Bryant for the rift.
According to Bryant, Malone told him before the season started that he was going to retire and spend more time with his family. Bryant said that Malone asked him not to speak publicly about his decision. Malone has been recovering from knee surgery and had told the Lakers that if he was going to return to play it would be with them.
On the outside of the drama this time, Miami Heat center Shaquille O'Nel was amazed at this story.
"I'm very surprised how it came out, but I've never seen anything like that before," O'Neal told the Miami Herald. "I thought him and Karl were best friends. Karl was always the liaison between me and that guy. I was under the impression they were closer than what they were."
O'Neal said he would be surprised if Malone did anything inappropriate.
"He's a legend," O'Neal said. "And if you don't like Karl Malone, there's something wrong with you."
我也很愛小蟲 但是小蟲不是跟他同一等級的球員 再說 生涯末期最後一年的兩人能力與貢獻 更是不能相比
小蟲本身問題也不少 加入當時KO 不合的湖人 祇是更糟而已 事實上他加入過 績效不怎樣
我欣賞伏爾泰的話：「雖然我百分之百反對你的意見，但我百分之百支持你說話的權力！」